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05/10/2009 at 8:58 AM #140AnonymousGuest
Hello,
Kindly guide as if the statement of WOMEN CELL, FIR & SECTION 12 OF DV are extreme self contradictory on there own and in-laws are using the words like, we had given the dowry beyond our financial capacity, extreme fake affidavit of 10 times over expenditure on marriage,
what will be the grounds of framing the criminal charges against my in-laws to drag them to imprisonment exp. forgery, dowry pro. act 1961, breach of trust, MAAN HAANI etc. etc.
I just wanna see my in-laws to be jailed for such fake and cheap act.
Thanks
Summary of my case
Just wanna share a joke of the I.O of women cell DSP gave his remarks after an uninvestigated and undiscussed complaint of 498A to register FIR. (Under Monetary influence)
” KHUFIA TEHKIKAT, KHUFIA BYANO KE TAHAT MEINE HUSBAND KO DOSHI PAYA” like bloody i am not a accused of 498a rather a TERRORIST to investigate secretly.
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To,
The Hon’ble D.I.G
Subject:- Seek Justice and request for fare investigation in false FIR No–
Sir,
I xyz S/o Late. — Lal, Temp. R/o # —a, District respectfully submit as under.
1. After the graduation from delhi in 2004, I shifted to — on appointment of —- Max -. and felt in a love with a girl –t — D/o – Ludhiana. It being an inter-cast marriage and the girl being only established earning member of her family against the mutual consent of all relatives finally we got married feb 2009 which was performed in a very simple manner. And only few members attended the marriage and no dowry articles were given or taken by the parties. No child was born out of the marriage.
2. That after the few days of marriage wife bit try to prove dominating and she always titled towards her mother and use to dance to the tune of her mother. She started creating the troubles in the family on petty matters and started raising quarrels using rustic language and insult me publicly. The interference of her mother in my family was so deep that my life has become too disturb to manage personally and professionally. On 5.4.2009 there was a minor dispute in regards of shifting from her local city and she started shouting and threatening to call upon her mother in high volume. Her mother came and joined her in raising an issue too big by using very cheap and ridiculous language about me but the matter was amicably sort with the intervention of my aunty and uncle. Again on next date 06.04.2009 her mother came in my absence and started shouting and abusing me and my mother. She also threat by saying “ LADKI KI JYADA SUNI JATI HAI” and finally intentionally took her daughter with her along with all her cloths and jewelry. I had approached her many times and went her home to receive her but entire family misbehaved with me and said “GET OUT” & “ WE ARE VERY BAD PEOPLE”. Due to global recession and extensive professional work pressure, wife rather understanding & adjusting with circumstances she threat and misused domestic and women act and filled criminal complaint against me before S.S.P –, as well as S.H.O P.S City —
3. To save my matrimonial life I have filled a suit in the court of — U/s 9 of Hindu marriage act and have approached Chief Justice & S.S.P — to seek justice but all in vain. My inlaws finnaly refused to continue the relation and started illegal demand of Rs. 15,00,000 to settle the matter. On my refusal to pay,due to local influence and political support & Good relation with Police they filled a F.I.R on 11.06.2009 U/s 498A/406/506 on me, my mother & My auntie who is a heart patient and live 500km away from my place.
4. Respected Sir, I here by admit all these allegation on me are absolute fake and there has been no fare investigation done in this case. I took my landloard and my neighbors for evidence but they were not been entertained to record there statement. At the counseling at Women Cell even a single time I had not been investigated in regards of demand of dowry and thus I was not even aware of any such complaint for which I come to know from FIR. My mother who is working as Health department Rajasthan and my Aunti who resides at Karnal and is a Heart patient for last 15 years and had never visited my place after my marriage and has no concern with this matter at all are just being involved for the harassment
So hereby I request you to please and kindly personally intervene into the matter to know the truth and facts and direct the case for fare investigation. For which I am standing by the police authorities with my extended support.
I am also sure for your support which will definitely increase our confidence in Police Proceedings and De-Motivate the misuse of 498A.
We will be very grateful to you.
Your’s Truly
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05/10/2009 at 11:10 AM #977AnonymousGuest
Dear friend, if any case is without groundless & have no ingredients in respect of said offence, you have to move before the competent court of law for quashing said FIR.
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05/10/2009 at 1:31 PM #978AnonymousGuest
“Khufia Tehkikat” !!! . This itself is a ground. How can they do khufia tehkikat? They need to establish facts through evidences and only then they can conclude about “Doshi” …. Just catch this and contest on whether khufia tehkikat is allowed in law …..
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06/10/2009 at 8:44 AM #979AnonymousGuest
Sir,
As posted just brief of the case and seek your advise.
Married on 4/2/09
Seperated on 06/04/09 (She took all gold and all her belongings in two trip of car, of her and of my mom worth rs. 2.5lac in my absence while i was at office, it was evidence by all neighbours)
18/04/09- Complaint in women cell (Investigation process started)
21/04/09- I framed my wife and her mother with 3 charges of, abusing, beating and threatning and breeach of trust.
26/04/09- i filled a suit of section 9 of hindu marriage act
27/04/09 i filled a DDR against my in-laws of apprehension agains the misuse of 498A with CC to DGP, SSP, CJ
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498A, 406 & 506 was charged on me on 11/06/09 with such remarks of DSP.
after dismiss of anticipatory bail from session court i got it from HC. Now my in-laws want my bail to be dismissed on ground of no gold recovery and DV. Now my next AB hearing is on 13/10, where myself and 498A wife has also been called in person.
Can it happen.
Thanks
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06/10/2009 at 10:56 PM #980AnonymousGuest
Hello Rripple,
i am also facing similar kind of trouble but the only diffrence is they havent filed the cases against me & my family yet and its around 6 months since we are living apart.
Can you please help me with the format copy of :
1) framed of charges against wife and her mother with 3 charges of, abusing, beating and threatning and breeach of trust.
2) DDR filed by you against your in-laws of apprehension against the misuse of 498A with CC to DGP, SSP, CJ
It will be a great help to me in understanding and moving ahead taking further precautions.
Thanks,
Saxena
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07/10/2009 at 11:49 AM #981AnonymousGuest
Dear Saxsena,
At present m not having any hard copy will send you later.
But what personaly feel if you persume of such charges on you than pl. go ahead and be offensive, though the chargs will derpend upon your situation, as its already 6 months so you need to make some straigt grounds without any confusion and duplex mindset..TEP provided by group is a very good option to scrue the in-laws if they give something in written to demand cash if not in there financial capacity.
DDR should only include the allegation of apprehension of FIR u/s 498A & 406. and moreover you can blame on stealing gold etc. etc other section will let you know or any lawer can tell you.
Rest senior members are there to better guide u.
u can get back to me on 9914460XXX after 8.30
Regds
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07/10/2009 at 12:26 PM #982AnonymousGuest
Counter Charge – 498a
Offence (legally) is the best form of defense. If you had waited for 11 years to get acquitted from 498a case which is so obviously false and blatantly misused, I am sure many of us will take more than that, since some cases are well thought-off(by Advocatus Diaboli- Advocates of the Devil!) and evidences and foolishness on the part of the complainants are fewer and less obvious or provable, like as in your case.
My strategy to put pressure(and of course poison their mind, and give them a taste of their own medicine) was to file counter cases even before my 498a case “charges are framed” by the Public prosecutor of the Magistrate court(I did wait until the police submitted the chargesheet to the court).
The 4 different cases which I have filed until now, as per the Indian Penal Code Sections mentioned below:(the courts may not move on these cases and send summons at all, but the mental stress it will be created in the minds of the complainants is unfathomable- the anticipation of imprisonment upto 7 years!(more than what 498a would ever fetch u, which is just 4 years, you could plan to take a Ph.D in that jail period is more stressful than actual conviction to any degree!. Try it and see the noose loosen around you, you can then decide whether u want to hit the gas pedal further, or quit leaving the vermin wriggling in their death throes(But Dont ever quit giving them the Hell they deserve- is my personal request, but situations may require it sometime).
Almost all the advocates will initially say that no counter case is possible, since the matter is under the consideration of a court(As they all advised! us, but we did file the cases after all), but the point here is that u are not trying to disprove the whole case of 498a, you are only citing specific portions , for which you have evidence and can prove as false- you are deconstructing the whole case into portions which you can ‘Kill’ with counter cases). Its nothing but a Ruthless mind game, the same game they thought you will succumb to, only now u have decided to Turn Tables!, enjoy your raids and sorties fully… Get Even, if you cant get Justice!
This has 2 logical benefits, 1) You can put the other party in deep distress, which itself is a victory 2) You can start proving the protions as false and can use that proceedings to support you main case of 498a!.
IN ANY CASE I WOULD BE GRATEFUL IF YOU GUYS, WHO ARE TRYING WITH SUITABLE COUNTER CASES, CAN KEEP ME POSTED ON THE PROGRESS ON YOUR COUNTER CASES. WE CAN TRY CROSS REFERRING OUR CASES TO THE RESPECTIVE COURTS FOR MAXIMUM MUTUAL BENEFIT(SINCE SOME COURTS MAY BE MORE RECEPTIVE FOR COUNTER CASES THAN OTHERS, AND THE JUDGEMENTS OF THESE COURTS WILL EASE THE RESISTANCE IN THE COURTS WHICH ARE NOT SO RECEPTIVE- LET SYNERGY PREVAIL AND KILL THE ENEMY/EVIL)
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Case on sections 192, 193, 196 and 209 of I.P.C:ie. 192. Fabricating false evidence, 193. Punishment for false evidence, 196. Using evidence known to be false, 209. Dishonestly making false claim in Court
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Separate case : Charging 120 B of I.P.C.,463, 464, 465, 466, 468, 469, 471 r/w 34 of I.P.C. : 120B. Punishment of criminal conspiracy, 463. Forgery, 464. Making a false document, 463. Forgery, 464. Making a false document, 465. Punishment for forgery, 466. Forgery of record of court or of public register, etc, 468. Forgery for purpose of cheating, 469. Forgery for purpose of harming reputation, 471. Using as genuine a forged document
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Case on sections 192, 193, 196 and 209 of I.P.C:ie. 192. Fabricating false evidence, 193. Punishment for false evidence, 196. Using evidence known to be false, 209. Dishonestly making false claim in Court
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192. Fabricating false evidence
Whoever causes any circumstance to exist or makes any false entry in any book or record, or makes any document containing a false statement, intending that such circumstance, false entry or false statement may appear in evidence in a judicial proceeding, or in a proceeding taken by law before a public servant as such, or before an arbitrator, and that such circumstance, false entry or false statement, so appearing in evidence, may cause any person who in such proceeding is to form an opinion upon the evidence, to entertain an erroneous opinion touching any point material to the result of such proceeding, is said “to fabricate false evidence”.
Illustrations
(a) A, puts jewels into a box belonging to Z, with the intention that they may be found in that box, and that this circumstance may cause Z to be convicted of theft. A has fabricated false evidence.
(b) A makes a false entry in his shop-book for the purpose of using it as corroborative evidence in a Court of Justice. A has fabricated false evidence.
(c) A, with the intention of causing Z to be convicted of a criminal conspiracy, writes a letter in imitation of Z’s handwriting, purporting to be addressed to an accomplice in such criminal conspiracy, and puts the letter in a place which he knows that the officers of the Police are likely to search. A has fabricated false evidence.
193. Punishment for false evidence
Whoever intentionally gives false evidence in any stage of a judicial proceeding, or fabricates false evidence for the purpose of being used in any stage of a judicial proceeding, shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to seven years, and shall also be liable to fine,
and whoever intentionally gives or fabricates false evidence in any other case, shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to three years, and shall also be liable to fine.
Explanation 1- A trial before a Court-martial; 101[***] is a judicial proceeding.
Explanation 2- An investigation directed by law preliminary to a proceeding before a Court of Justice, is a stage of a judicial proceeding, though that investigation may not take place before a Court of Justice.
Illustration
A, in an enquiry before a Magistrate for the purpose of ascertaining whether Z ought to be committed for trial, makes on oath a statement which he knows to be false. As this enquiry is a state of a judicial proceeding, A has given false evidence.
Explanation 3- An investigation directed by a Court of Justice according to law, and conducted under the authority of a Court of Justice, is a state of a judicial proceeding, though that investigation may not take place before a Court of Justice.
Illustration
A, in any enquiry before an officer deputed by a Court of Justice to ascertain on the spot the boundaries of land, makes on oath a statement which he knows to be false. As this enquiry is a stage of a judicial proceeding. A has given false evidence.
195. Giving or fabricating false evidence with intent to procure conviction of offence punishable with imprisonment for life or imprisonment
Whoever gives or fabricates false evidence intending thereby to cause, or knowing it to be likely that he will thereby cause, any person to be convicted of an offence which 102[by the law for the time being in force in 103[India]] is not capital, but punishable with 104[imprisonment for life], or imprisonment for a term of seven years or upwards, shall be punished as a person convicted of that offence would be liable to be punished.
Illustration
A gives false evidence before a Court of Justice, intending thereby to cause Z to be convicted of a dacoity. The punishment of dacoity is 104[imprisonment for life], or rigorous imprisonment for a term which may extend to ten years, with or without fine. A, therefore, is liable to 105[imprisonment for life] or imprisonment, with or without fine.
196. Using evidence known to be false
Whoever corruptly uses or attempts to use as true or genuine evidence any evidence which he knows to be false or fabricated, shall be punished in the same manner as if he gave or fabricated false evidence.
197. Issuing or signing false certificate
Whoever issues or signs any certificate required by law to be given or signed, or relating to any fact of which such certificate is by law admissible in evidence, knowing or believing that such certificate is false in any material point, shall be punished in the same manner as if he gave false evidence.
198. Using as true a certificate known to be false
Whoever corruptly uses or attempts to use any such certificate as a true certificate, knowing the same to be false in any material point, shall be punished in the same manner as if he gave false evidence.
199. False statement made in declaration which is by law receivable as evidence
Whoever, in any declaration made or subscribed by him, which declaration any Court of Justice, or any public servant or other person, is bound or authorised by law to receive as evidence of any fact, makes any statement which is false, and which he either knows or believes to be false or does not believe to be true, touching any point material to the object for which the declaration is made or used, shall be punished in the same manner as if he gave false evidence.
209. Dishonestly making false claim in Court
Whoever fraudulently or dishonestly, or with intent to injure or annoy any person, makes in a Court of Justice any claim which he knows to be false, shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to two years, and shall also be liable to fine.
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211. False charge of offence made with intent to injure
Whoever, with intent to cause injury to any person, institutes or causes to be instituted any criminal proceeding against that person, or falsely charges any person with having committed an offence, knowing that there is no just or lawful ground for such proceeding or charge against that person, shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to two years, or with fine, or with both;
and if such criminal proceeding be instituted on a false charge of an offence punishable with death, 104[imprisonment for life], or imprisonment for seven years or upwards, shall be punishable with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to seven years, and shall also be liable to fine.
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Separate case : Charging 120 B of I.P.C.,463, 464, 465, 466, 468, 469, 471 r/w 34 of I.P.C. : 120B. Punishment of criminal conspiracy, 463. Forgery, 464. Making a false document, 463. Forgery, 464. Making a false document, 465. Punishment for forgery, 466. Forgery of record of court or of public register, etc, 468. Forgery for purpose of cheating, 469. Forgery for purpose of harming reputation, 471. Using as genuine a forged document
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120A. Definition of criminal conspiracy
When two or more persons agree to do, or cause to be done,-
(1) an illegal act, or
(2) an act which is not illegal by illegal means, such an agreement is designated a criminal conspiracy:
Provided that no agreement except an agreement to commit an offence shall amount to a criminal conspiracy unless some act besides the agreement is done by one or more parties to such agreement in pursuance thereof.
Explanation- It is immaterial whether the illegal act is the ultimate object of such agreement, or is merely incidental to that object.]
32[120B. Punishment of criminal conspiracy
(1) Whoever is a party to a criminal conspiracy to commit an offence punishable with death, 51[imprisonment for life] or rigorous imprisonment for a term of two years or upwards, shall, where no express provision is made in this Code for the punishment of such a conspiracy, be punished in the same manner as if he had abetted such offence.
(2) Whoever is a party to a criminal conspiracy other than a criminal conspiracy to commit an offence punishable as aforesaid shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term not exceeding six months, or with fine or with both.]
463. Forgery
Whoever makes any false documents or part of a document with intent to cause damage or injury, to the public or to any person, or to support any claim or title, or to cause any person to part with property, or to enter into any express or implied contract, or with intent to commit fraud or that fraud may be committed, commits forgery.
464. Making a false document
A person is said to make a false document-
First- Who dishonestly or fraudulently makes, signs, seals or executes a document or part of a document, or makes any mark denoting the execution of a document, with the intention of causing it to be believed that such document or part of a document was made, signed, sealed or executed by or by the authority of a person by whom or by whose authority he knows that it was not made, signed, sealed or executed, or at a time at which he knows that it was not made, signed, sealed or executed; or
Secondly- Who, without lawful authority, dishonestly or fraudulently, by cancellation or otherwise, alters a document in any material part thereof, after it has been made or executed either by himself or by any other person, whether such person be living or dead at the time of such alteration; or
Thirdly- Who dishonestly or fraudulently causes any person to sign, seal, execute or alter a document, knowing that such person by reason of unsoundness of mind or intoxication cannot, or that by reason of deception practiced upon him, he does not know the contents of the document or the nature of the alteration.
Illustrations
(a) A has a letter of credit upon B for rupees 10,000 written by Z. A, in order to defraud B, adds a cipher to the 10,000, and makes the sum 1,00,000 intending that it may be delivered by B that Z so wrote the letter. A has committed forgery.
(b) A, without Z’s authority, affixes Z’s seal to a document purporting to be a conveyance of an estate from Z to A, with the intention to selling the estate to B, and thereby of obtaining from B the purchase-money. A has committed forgery.
(c) A picks up a cheque on a banker-signed by B, payable to bearer, but without any sum having. been inserted in the cheque. A fraudulently fills up the cheque by inserting the sum of ten thousand rupees. A commits forgery.
(d) A leaves with B, his agent, a cheque on a banker, signed by A, without inserting the sum payable and authorises B to fill up the cheque by inserting a sum not exceeding ten thousand rupees for the purpose of making certain payment. B fraudulently fills up the cheque by inserting the sum of twenty thousand rupees. B commits forgery.
(e) A draws a bill of exchange on himself in the name of B without B’s authority, intending to discount it as a genuine bill with a banker and intending to take up the bill on its maturity. Here, as A draws the bill with intent to deceive the banker by leading him to suppose that he had the security of B, and thereby to discount the bill, A is guilty of forgery.
(f) Z’s will contains the these words-“I direct that all my remaining property be equally divided between A, B and C” A dishonestly scratches out B’s name, intending that it may be believed that the whole was left to himself and C. A has committed forgery.
(g) A endorses a Government promissory note and makes it payable to Z or his order by writing on the bill the words “Pay to Z or his order” and signing the endorsement. B dishonestly erases the words “Pay to Z or his order”, and thereby converts the special endorsement into a blank endorsement. B commits forgery.
(h) A sells and conveys an estate to Z. A afterwards, in order to defraud Z of his estate, executes a conveyance of the same estate to B, dated six months earlier than the date of the conveyance to Z, intending it to be believed that he had conveyed the estate to B before he conveyed it to Z. A has committed forgery.
(i) Z dictates his will to A. A intentionally writes down a different legatee from the legatee named by Z, and by representing to Z that he has prepared the will according to his instructions, induces Z to sign the will. A has committed forgery.
(j) A writes a letter and signs it with B’s name without B’s authority, certifying that A is a man of good character and in distressed circumstances from unforeseen misfortune, intending by means of such letter to obtain alms from Z and other persons. Here, as A made a false document in order to induce Z to part with property. A has committed forgery.
(k) A without B’s authority writes a letter and signs it in B’s name certifying to A’s character, intending thereby to obtain employment under Z. A has committed forgery in as much as he intended to deceive Z by the forged certificate, and thereby to induce Z to enter into an express or implied contract for service.
Explanation 1- A man’s signature of his own name may amount to forgery.
Illustrations
(a) A signs his own name to a bill of exchange, intending that it may be believed that the bill was drawn by another person of the same name. A has committed forgery.
(b) A writes the word “accepted” on a piece of paper and signs it with Z’s name, in order that B may afterwards write on the paper a bill of exchange drawn by B upon Z, and negotiate the bill as though it had been accepted by Z. A is guilty of forgery; and if B, knowing the fact, draws the bill upon the paper pursuant to A’s intention, B is also guilty of forgery.
(c) A picks up a bill of exchange payable to the order of a different person of the same name. A endorses the bill in his own name, intending to cause it to be believed that it was endorsed by the person whose order it was payable; here A has committed forgery.
(d) A purchases an estate sold under execution of a decree against B. B, after the seizure of the estate, in collusion with Z, executes a lease of the estate of Z at a nominal rent and for a long period and dates the lease six months prior to the seizure, with intent to defraud A, and to cause it to be believed that the lease was granted before the seizure. B, though he executes the lease in his own name, commits forgery by antedating it.
(e) A, a trader, in anticipation of insolvency, lodges effects with B for A’s benefit, and with intent to defraud his creditors; and in order to give a colour to the transaction, writes a promissory note binding himself to pay to B a sum for value received, and antedates the note, intending that it may be believed to have been made before. A was on the point of insolvency. A has committed forgery under the first head of the definition.
Explanation 2- The making of a false document in the name of a fictitious person, intending it to be believed that the document was made by a real person, or in the name of a deceased person, intending it to be believed that the document was made by the person in his lifetime, may amount to forgery.
Illustration
A draws a bill of exchange upon a fictitious person, and fraudulently accepts the bill in the name of such fictitious person with intent to negotiate it. A commits forgery.
465. Punishment for forgery
Whoever commits forgery shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to two years, or with fine, or with both.
466. Forgery of record of court or of public register, etc
Whoever forges a document, purporting to be a record or proceeding of or in a Court of Justice, or a register of birth, baptism, marriage or burial, or a register kept by a public servant as such, or a certificate or document purporting to be made by a public servant in his official capacity, or an authority to institute or defend a suit, or to take any proceedings therein, or to confess judgement, or a power of attorney, shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to seven years, and shall also be liable to fine.
468. Forgery for purpose of cheating
Whoever commits forgery, intending that the document forged shall be used for the purpose of cheating, shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to seven years, and shall also be liable to fine.
469. Forgery for purpose of harming reputation
Whoever commits forgery, intending that the document forged shall harm the reputation of any party, or knowing that it is likely to be used for that purpose, shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to three years, and shall also be liable to fine.
470. Forged document
A false document made wholly or in part by forgery is designated “a forged document”.
471. Using as genuine a forged document
Whoever fraudulently or dishonestly uses as genuine any document which he knows or has reason to believe to be a forged document, shall be punished in the same manner as if he had forged such document.
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340. Wrongful confinement
Whoever wrongfully restrains any person in such a manner as to prevent that person from proceedings beyond certain circumscribing limits, is said “wrongfully to confine” that person.
Illustrations
(a) A causes Z to go within a walled space, and locks Z in. A is thus prevented from proceeding in any direction beyond the circumscribing line of wall. A wrongfully confines Z.
(b) A places men with firearms at the outlets of a building, and tells Z that they will fire at Z if Z attempts to leave the building. A wrongfully confines Z.
Happy fighting!, Give to them, right back………..
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10/11/2009 at 5:31 AM #983AnonymousGuest
hi frns,
just wanna confirm as today is my final bail confirmation decision. but i doubt as we both were called in the court last time the girl started acting that all her gold is with me whereas she had taken all her belonging including my mothers jwellery with her in my absence and i have the witness for the same.
Does this gold recovery may get the reason for bail rejection.
Pl confirm on priorty.
Regds
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10/11/2009 at 6:37 AM #984AnonymousGuest
You can tell judge that she took her all gold but now she is denying.
You can remind her in front of judge,if she argue just ask to produce bills for said jewellary.
and why dont you counter case against her for giving dowry, as they already said they gave dowry beyond thier capacity.
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11/11/2009 at 6:46 AM #985AnonymousGuest
Thanks,
Well it had happened in the same way i expected. Sadly justice was no more intrested in listining more about recovery of gold and has given the conditional stay by depositing the 100grms of gold by 10th Dec. else he may order for cancellation of the bail..
The girl in her list is showing approx 6 gold rings, 1 of diamond ring, 1 gold bracelet, 1 gold bangle and 2 gold chains gifted to me in all occassion, whereas i had just received 1 gold engagement ring and 1 watch. and she is also claming that evenn her own jwellery is with me.
my lawer and i am repeatedly reminding the judge with reference to my complaint prior to FIR to CJ, Human Rights, SSP & SHO. that she has taken not even all gold rather cloths and grossry also in my absence and the event was witnessed by my landlord and many neighbours and my aunt and threatning me to give Rs. 15lack else they will file an 498a against me also i had filled the DDR against my Wife and M-in Law prior to FIR.
She herself is admiting in FIR that some gold is with her and some with me.
I just need an advise that do i deposit 100gm gold or not. My counsel is advising that once we do as per the justice and than in trial we will prove that just to honour the High court order we had borrowed the funds and arrange the gold worth 100gms.
He also ensure me that in trial it this act will also attract the section 405, 413 & 420 against the girl as nothing as such jwellery was exchanged event the Marriage, Reception movie proves that.
Kindly advise.
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11/11/2009 at 7:30 AM #986AnonymousGuest
If you do not have her gold why do you want to submit to her false statement;
that shows you denied 1st now you are depositting it.
Your stand will be always same, if you are true.
just on her words Judge cann`t issue judgment. let her bark anything.
Their intention is to get some more gold or make money. and you are doing as they wanted.
Learn to fight back. If you do not have gold, just says you do not have, let bail cancelled and we will fight it out otherway.
ask for some more time,
File RTI asking court PIO to give certified copies of evidence she provided for the claims in her FIR.
same file with Police too.
let them provide Proofs of her claim and bills for said gold.
Judge cann`t go as per her words, if so you can approch HC
Let see what they are doing
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11/11/2009 at 7:37 AM #987AnonymousGuest
Thanks,
But this case is already under proceding in HC as my intial bail application was rejected from session court but accepted from HC. As far as gold is concern offcourse they are having the bills of the gold purchased for the girl and family members.
I am not scared of any arrest but more worried of my reputation. what i personnaly think this decision is not in favour of inlaws as they want my bail rejection.
But i think the judge has already given his decision. well is there any another thought left.
100gm gold or remand for recovery.
Kindly guide.
Thanks
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11/11/2009 at 8:20 AM #988AnonymousGuest
They have Proof of gold given to you too ? HOW CAN SHE SAY SOME GOLD IS WITH YOU THEN.
If they say its stridhan, then you do not know where she kept all that gold,
As you said she took some of her gold and some left with you, lets say 200grms, that cross some lakhs of rupees, then ask them Income tax receipt too.
If they say gold is given to you or her as dowry then you have to ask judge to read IPC 498a correctly.
GIVING DOWRY ALSO CRIME.
My Advice is to file RTI and ask for the Proofs of Evidence, IO has and submitted to court on her FIR
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11/11/2009 at 8:34 AM #989AnonymousGuest
Thanks frn,
but no one in the court is in intrested in such discussion zand the Judge already ordered.either gold or jail
This i am not saying that some gold is with me and some her. This statement is of girl in FIR as far as gold is concern they have just gifted me one Gold ring that too on engagement. rest all gold was in her custody including yhe gold gifted by my mother. unfortunately i was not even wearing that engagement ring as i dont like wearing ornaments.
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11/11/2009 at 8:40 AM #990AnonymousGuest
And if i am not wrong as i am being advised this all discussion is a part of trial court. Just what we need is bail confirmation.
Further this 100gms of gold can be countered in trial U/s 405, 413 & 420. as what ever they have received is by fraud.
Do confirm
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11/11/2009 at 8:44 AM #991AnonymousGuest
Thats what i am saying Based on what facts judge ordered such judgment;
If judgment is just based on her sob story then judge is at fault. you should ask PROOFS. or else go for HC or SC if you are fighting for truth.
Why do not you file for Polygrph (Lie detector test or narco analysis test) test on girl. 498a is Criminal case so judge Should not have objection to this.
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20/11/2009 at 9:47 AM #992AnonymousGuest
Just need a simple advise from all my frns reading this
my next hearing is 0n 10/12 with a conditional order to deposite 100gms gold where as i am having all the proofs as what all she is clamming that gold never exist in any audio/video. If i arrange for a gold and deposite with the court just to avoide arrest, will it be my admission that i was having gold with me or do i surrender. or is there any option to request court not to hand over the gold to girl rather keep it in a custody as security.
Pl advise if any of you has gone thru same situation
thanks
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21/11/2009 at 7:19 AM #993AnonymousGuest
As i told before once you bend for her demand they will make you bend more;
next time they will come with more demands,
what you will do then.
You stand should be firm.
Fight back false alegations.
why to affraid when u have proofs.
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01/12/2009 at 8:50 AM #994AnonymousGuest
Hello,
Can you guide me on the process of depositing Gold with protest its a leegal term and how can use this term Protest effectively.
because on last date also my counsel offered the 100gms worth cash deposit but girl denied and stood on demand of unfair and fale gold.
Thanks
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06/12/2009 at 2:24 PM #995AnonymousGuest
You should not bend buddy, only pressure tactics work in these cases, first win can be your final win, say judge that u dont have gold what ever u can do!
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